Comments on: Give a Little Air to the Editors http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php Fans of the InCopy/InDesign workflow, unite! Sat, 07 Aug 2010 09:26:30 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Nat Belz http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php/comment-page-1#comment-470 Nat Belz Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:14:27 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php#comment-470 Our [remote] editors endure LONG opening times with InCopy CS4. Our [also remote] designers want to show them low-res images but must be missing the boat with how they create the .icap files (pkg files)... Any speed solutions? Thanks. Our [remote] editors endure LONG opening times with InCopy CS4. Our [also remote] designers want to show them low-res images but must be missing the boat with how they create the .icap files (pkg files)… Any speed solutions?

Thanks.

]]> By: mat Gilbert http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php/comment-page-1#comment-312 mat Gilbert Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:33:06 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php#comment-312 sorry bout that! and thanks again! sorry bout that! and thanks again!

]]> By: Anne-Marie http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php/comment-page-1#comment-311 Anne-Marie Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:39:37 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php#comment-311 Matt, you're kind of veering way off the topic of this post. ;-) Probably better to email me directly, or post these issues to the Adobe InCopy forum. I'll create a new post later this week all about dealing with speed issues, and move your comments over there, where they'll be more relevant. Sound good? But if you had any thoughts about "leaving air for editors", feel free to comment here. Matt, you’re kind of veering way off the topic of this post. ;-)

Probably better to email me directly, or post these issues to the Adobe InCopy forum.

I’ll create a new post later this week all about dealing with speed issues, and move your comments over there, where they’ll be more relevant. Sound good?

But if you had any thoughts about “leaving air for editors”, feel free to comment here.

]]> By: mat Gilbert http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php/comment-page-1#comment-310 mat Gilbert Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:52:31 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php#comment-310 Here's another one... Master page items that have text wrap applied still show up on incopy assignment even though the item has been deleted from the layout. It creates a phantom text wrap even though it is not applied to anything but the original Master Page... Curious and furious... Here’s another one…
Master page items that have text wrap applied still show up on incopy assignment even though the item has been deleted from the layout. It creates a phantom text wrap even though it is not applied to anything but the original Master Page…
Curious and furious…

]]> By: mat Gilbert http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php/comment-page-1#comment-309 mat Gilbert Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:21:47 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php#comment-309 Thanks. Most of the above mentioned items have been either tried or ruled out. I cannot package because that would pull it off the server and many dept are working on the same assignment. I cannot break the links due to reflow and constant tweaking by the art dept. Editorial needs consistent and accurate layouts. I was wondering if there is any kind of setting to adjust what is sent as an image, but from what you have stated to me and Alison Cattleona, InCopy/InDesign is not built that way...pity. As for the computer or network speed. This situation has be explored and in most cases ruled out. Thanks. Most of the above mentioned items have been either tried or ruled out. I cannot package because that would pull it off the server and many dept are working on the same assignment. I cannot break the links due to reflow and constant tweaking by the art dept. Editorial needs consistent and accurate layouts.
I was wondering if there is any kind of setting to adjust what is sent as an image, but from what you have stated to me and Alison Cattleona, InCopy/InDesign is not built that way…pity.
As for the computer or network speed. This situation has be explored and in most cases ruled out.

]]> By: Anne-Marie http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php/comment-page-1#comment-308 Anne-Marie Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:31:38 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php#comment-308 Slow generation of images when you open the assignment almost always means you're on a slow network. The assignment generates the previews from the originals on the server every time you open it. You need gigabit speed through and through. But if the originals aren't available then it'll use the low-res previews stored within the assignment (new in CS3/CS4 I think). You'll get a bunch of "missing link" alerts but you could ignore them. So you could temporarily hide the originals (zip the folder containing them for example) before opening the assignment. Or, have the designer package the assignment (from the Assignment panel menu ... Package for InCopy) and send that to you via email or you download it from the server to your desktop. Assignment packages include the low-res image previews and you don't need to work off the server. Slow generation of images when you open the assignment almost always means you’re on a slow network. The assignment generates the previews from the originals on the server every time you open it. You need gigabit speed through and through.

But if the originals aren’t available then it’ll use the low-res previews stored within the assignment (new in CS3/CS4 I think). You’ll get a bunch of “missing link” alerts but you could ignore them.

So you could temporarily hide the originals (zip the folder containing them for example) before opening the assignment.

Or, have the designer package the assignment (from the Assignment panel menu … Package for InCopy) and send that to you via email or you download it from the server to your desktop. Assignment packages include the low-res image previews and you don’t need to work off the server.

]]> By: mat Gilbert http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php/comment-page-1#comment-307 mat Gilbert Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:15:45 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php#comment-307 help!!! Is there any way to have incopy use a low res image when importing assignments. I am finding InCopy very slow when opening up assignments and it seems to be because of images. I must be able to see the images, proxy will not do! help!!!
Is there any way to have incopy use a low res image when importing assignments. I am finding InCopy very slow when opening up assignments and it seems to be because of images. I must be able to see the images, proxy will not do!

]]> By: Brett Kizner http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php/comment-page-1#comment-116 Brett Kizner Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:23:05 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/give-a-little-air-to-the-editors.php#comment-116 Leaving a little extra room in the frame is a tip we regularly give to designers when teaching them to use InDesign with their editorial workflow systems. You're spot on that it makes it much easier to leave the box open to accommodate more text where possible. Near the end of the workflow, many of our clients choose to close up the box so that the InDesign layout is as clean as possible. Of course, with some designs for books, leaving extra space is not possible due to design constraints. Regarding leaving extra room so editors can edit their overset in Layout view, this would be a perfect use of Vjoon's Overset Manager as it will show the overset in the context of the layout, but not impact the Copyfit Progress toolbar. Leaving a little extra room in the frame is a tip we regularly give to designers when teaching them to use InDesign with their editorial workflow systems. You’re spot on that it makes it much easier to leave the box open to accommodate more text where possible. Near the end of the workflow, many of our clients choose to close up the box so that the InDesign layout is as clean as possible. Of course, with some designs for books, leaving extra space is not possible due to design constraints.

Regarding leaving extra room so editors can edit their overset in Layout view, this would be a perfect use of Vjoon’s Overset Manager as it will show the overset in the context of the layout, but not impact the Copyfit Progress toolbar.

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