Comments on: The Strange Case of the “Editing and Out of Date” Status http://incopysecrets.com/the-strange-case-of-the-editing-and-out-of-date-status.php Fans of the InCopy/InDesign workflow, unite! Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:46:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2 By: Joanna Beyer http://incopysecrets.com/the-strange-case-of-the-editing-and-out-of-date-status.php/comment-page-1#comment-561 Joanna Beyer Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:16:59 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/the-strange-case-of-the-editing-and-out-of-date-status.php#comment-561 Anne-Marie: Have you ever gotten any other explanations for this phenomenon? We are in probably the mid-stages of implementing an IC workflow and we have had several users encounter this. All insist they did not "Undo" anything before it happens. They are just working along and all of a sudden for no apparent reason they start getting this icon combo every time they make a change. I watch it happen to a user this morning. She was working in InDesign (but last week I had an IC user with the same thing). She was going through the index italicizing the items that needed it, and every single time she made something italic it would tell her the story SHE HAD CHECKED OUT was out-of-date. I told her your trick of saving rather than agreeing to update content, which works, but what a pain in the neck. You should not have to save after literally every change. Also, when she was done and went to check it back in, it told her she was trying to submit an older version. We are working off a server as recommended. Do you have any ideas at all? (If you have questions/need more information, just let me know.) Thank you! Joanna Beyer Anne-Marie: Have you ever gotten any other explanations for this phenomenon? We are in probably the mid-stages of implementing an IC workflow and we have had several users encounter this. All insist they did not “Undo” anything before it happens. They are just working along and all of a sudden for no apparent reason they start getting this icon combo every time they make a change. I watch it happen to a user this morning. She was working in InDesign (but last week I had an IC user with the same thing). She was going through the index italicizing the items that needed it, and every single time she made something italic it would tell her the story SHE HAD CHECKED OUT was out-of-date. I told her your trick of saving rather than agreeing to update content, which works, but what a pain in the neck. You should not have to save after literally every change. Also, when she was done and went to check it back in, it told her she was trying to submit an older version. We are working off a server as recommended. Do you have any ideas at all? (If you have questions/need more information, just let me know.)

Thank you!

Joanna Beyer

]]> By: f vd Geest http://incopysecrets.com/the-strange-case-of-the-editing-and-out-of-date-status.php/comment-page-1#comment-188 f vd Geest Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:17:35 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/the-strange-case-of-the-editing-and-out-of-date-status.php#comment-188 No, realy I've done a lot of workflow installments here in the Netherlands for the InCopy workflow (newspapers and magazines, some with datbase connection some with Woodwings Smart Connection Pro, most with the 'out of the box' Adobe plug-ins) and they all work well the last years, and all have learned to use check out/check in only. I find the check out/in (and cancel check out as Undo) to be the most reliable. So no: I don't think they should use Save and I learn them not to ;-) (of course there is the versioning problem some want, save content as or using Version Cue, but as a rule I use not save, only check out/in) No, realy I’ve done a lot of workflow installments here in the Netherlands for the InCopy workflow (newspapers and magazines, some with datbase connection some with Woodwings Smart Connection Pro, most with the ‘out of the box’ Adobe plug-ins) and they all work well the last years, and all have learned to use check out/check in only.

I find the check out/in (and cancel check out as Undo) to be the most reliable.
So no: I don’t think they should use Save and I learn them not to ;-)

(of course there is the versioning problem some want, save content as or using Version Cue, but as a rule I use not save, only check out/in)

]]> By: Anne-Marie http://incopysecrets.com/the-strange-case-of-the-editing-and-out-of-date-status.php/comment-page-1#comment-187 Anne-Marie Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:35:41 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/the-strange-case-of-the-editing-and-out-of-date-status.php#comment-187 Wow, you don't think InCopy users should ever choose "Save"? That's the first time I've heard that one. Interesting! Wow, you don’t think InCopy users should ever choose “Save”? That’s the first time I’ve heard that one.

Interesting!

]]> By: f vd Geest http://incopysecrets.com/the-strange-case-of-the-editing-and-out-of-date-status.php/comment-page-1#comment-186 f vd Geest Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:31:52 +0000 http://incopysecrets.com/the-strange-case-of-the-editing-and-out-of-date-status.php#comment-186 More the reason to tell people to ONLY use Check in/Check Out. I always teach in a final workflow, specialy the InCopy users that save is off limits, do only the check in/out thingie! More the reason to tell people to ONLY use Check in/Check Out.
I always teach in a final workflow, specialy the InCopy users that save is off limits, do only the check in/out thingie!

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